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Tiktoks I've seen multiple times: what's your controversial opinion!?
Me, cause i know what my controversial opinion is especially controversial on TIKTOK: Uhh...well-
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this lesbian visibility week, i am asking monogender lesbians to be normal about multigender lesbians
#multigender lesbians belong in lesbian spaces#yes even if one of their genders is male#heck i need people in general to be normal about multigender people#“men dni” “women dni” who do you think you are i am both of those things#“we need weirder queers” you can't even handle a lesbian who is a guy#lesboy#multigender#multigender problems#transmultiphobia
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i hate anti-any queer label bitches and ESPECIALLY when they justify it with "it makes me feel dysphoric/uncomfortable when someone uses a label like this :(" why do I have to perform my queerness in a way YOU deem acceptable?
#''oh but it's homophobic/transphobic-'' no it's not. people have been using certain labels for years. it didn't hurt anyone except terfs.#''you can't just call everyone who disagrees with you a terf!!'' im calling terfs and terf-lites what they are. hope this helps!#its the same thing every time. trans people were homophobic. bisexuality was homophobic. pansexuality was biphobic. aros and aces were homo#phobic. trans people without dysphoria/who didn't fit into traditional gender roles were faking it.#it will always be the same thing with these people. queerness is about solidarity. it's about fighting for eachother.#when you bully and exclude a certain group because you deem them unacceptable you're hurting everyone!#it's what bigots did! and it's what dumb little exclusionists on the internet are parroting.#you have to stick up for everyone in the queer community#yes this is about mspec lesbians and lesboys and mspec gays and terigirls. you are horrible to them.#discourse#queer discourse
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another day another reminder that twitter still very much actively hates queer people with unconventional identities
#can y'all like leave us the hell alone for TWO SECONDS#idk much about what regretevator even is but yes this is about that#banning mentions of us in your discord spreading hate against us then later deleting it because you're a coward about it#I think it'll be a long while till I go back to using sites like twitter and discord and engaging with fandom communities#because you people do shit like this#I literally felt constantly unsafe trying to just have fun with people who share my interests#and I thought we were finally starting to get better about this#nope still mass bullying towards fucking. teenage trans people calling themselves lesboys or some shit#get a grip#regretevator#tw queerphobia#tw exclusionism#lesboy
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remembers back to the time I made my straight woman and nonbinary lesbian OCs date before I even knew that mspec monos existed or about the discourse pertaining to transmasc lesbians
anyways mspec straight people and lesboys are awesome <3
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my favorite trope is like big beautiful mystical woman and weird guy that are in love but they're dykey about it because that's literally just me and my wife
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absolutely off the rails behavior when cis lesbians become enraged when you tell them that it's butchphobic to exclude butches who are transfemme, trans women, transmasc, men, take testosterone, have penises, and/or get top/bottom surgery from the butch and lesbian community. like the fact that we have historically always belonged to the lesbian community has been coming from the mouths of gnc and transfemme & transmasc butches for decades but everyone plugs their ears and doesn't listen.
the lesbian community has such a long and rich history of being a safe place for transfemme, trans women, transmasc, masc, intersex, genderqueer, non binary, and male presenting people who take testosterone and get top and bottom surgeries. before the rise of lesbian separatism and political lesbianism, transmascs & transfemme butches in lesbian spaces were not an issue. also in the past there just wasn't anywhere else for us to go. we were shoved into lesbian spaces by force, but also wanted to stay there because it's a community that's dear to our hearts and still means a lot to us
lesbians were the ones who made it safe for us to be there in the first place.
it's unfathomable to see people who say you should respect butches when it comes to their pronouns, identity, etc., to not invalidate their genders, to not assume anything about what gender they identify with- but the second they find out that some butches who are transfemme, trans women, or take T and still identify as lesbians and dykes they police our identities and bodies and insinuate that we can't be real butch lesbians for x, y and z reasons.
it's just insidious to exclude transfem butches and butch trans women on so many levels. i see this constantly and it's never called out as a form of butchphobia as well as a form of transmisogyny, especially when that person does not want to get bottom surgery. to call any MtF butch a man that's invading the lesbian community is to admit that one knows nothing about the complex gender identities and struggles transfemme butches and butch trans women face. to identify this way is one of the most prolific and powerful expressions of butchness, and what it means to be a butch lesbian. to deny these people the right to call themselves butch is inherently, inarguably butch and lesbophobic as well as trans/misogynistic.
to chase any of these people out of butch, lesbian, dyke and sapphic spaces is inherently butchphobia. yes, butchphobia affects perisex cis butch women, but it also affects so many more people. it affects transmascs and men. it affects genderqueer and non binary people. it affects bigender men. it affects transfemme lesbians and trans lesbian women. it affects trans girls and mtf lesbians in general. it affects intersex people. it affects lesboys. it affects boy/guydykes. it affects queer people of color. it affects studs.
it affects dykes, lesbians, and sapphics in general. this is a form of lesbophobia, trans/androphobia, intersexism, and especially butchphobia, no matter what. we have to accept ALL butches who don't fit into a neat little box of what a masculine queer person should be like.
#lesbian#lgbtqia#lgbtq#butch lesbian#lesbian community#sapphic#butch dyke#dyke#ftm butch#transmasc butch#bigender butch#bigender lesbian#genderqueer lesbian#lesboy#guydyke#intersex#butch#transmasc#transmasculine#trans man#trans men#our writing#testo butch#ftm lesbian#ftm dyke#non binary lesbian#nonbinary lesbian#genderfluid lesbian#about us
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Is everyone willingly ignoring it or when are we going to realize this petty label discourse has always been rooted in misogyny. This started long before Bi Lesbians. Some of you are just too new or simply never paid enough attention to realize the history of this hatred of lesbians. Do any of you remember?
First it was "Butches aren't valid" because they were invading wlw spaces with their "masculinity"
Then it was moved onto: "Trans women aren't valid" because actually they were the ones invading wlw spaces with their "masculinity" The exact same arguement being used against cis women as well.
Then "Pan/Bi women aren't valid" because your attraction to men or anyone other than a woman doesn't belong in wlw spaces.
Then it was "Nonbinary lesbians aren't valid" because if you're "not a woman" by my definition you're invading wlw spaces.
"Asexual/Aro women aren't valid" because your lack of "real" attraction to women doesn't belong in wlw spaces.
"Lesboys aren't valid" because you are invading wlw spaces with your "masculinity"
"Bi/Pan lesbians aren't valid" because your attraction to men or anyone other than a woman doesn't belong in wlw spaces.
Oh wait? Where have we heard those last two before? Wasn't everyone arguing about those SAME issues with Butches/Trans wlw and Pan/Bi wlw?
Yes, exactly. Would any of you take ONE look back and realize this is only repetition of problems we have already decided don't dictate our identities?
They say, "You're not a real lesbian unless you do this and that and even if you do that you'll never be good enough." No matter what lesbains do, there will always be a problem. Why? Because this isnt about being a lesbian, this isnt about women, this is rhetoric started by terfs and it will never be anything more.
Sure, you can follow their rules to feel valid, but you'll never be good enough. You're an invader too because they'll sprinkle in little things to feed the insecurities and rules that THEY fucking created.
You're not a real lesbian unless you're a "gold star lesbain" meaning you've never dated or been attracted to a man. You're not a real lesbian unless you're feminine. You're not a real lesbian unless you hate masculinity.
Which is just translation for: You're not a real wlw unless you hate men and don't deviate from gender norms. And, WHO would've thought! Is exactly what terfs want.
They sink their claws into the newer generations because they don't remember what our community has had to go through, all they see is the fake issues created and they think it's a threat because they're being fed "This is what's valid and this is what's not" and it seems like it's never going to end because women being anything other than passive and simple with their identities are immediately taken as a threat to the community by those who are insecure and need to demand the exclusion of anyone who doesn't follow their rules to feel like theyre part of a group.
Anti-Bi/Pan Lesbians have become sheep because they only surround themselves with online discourse instead of the real issues LGBTQ people face and in their attempt to keep a "clean community" They're more unwelcomed than the people they tell to kill themselves. So caught up in fake problems others or themslves have made up that they fail to grasp the simplest of concepts: Labels DO NOT exist in real life. Labels are created to help people describe how they feel or identify. They are not and have NEVER been a final definition.
Labels are worn HOWever and WHENever the owner feels like it. They're not collars. They're not cages. You can't use them as such. You can't use them against us.
When? WHEN? When did we decide that a label- A WORD- matters MORE than the real life feelings that real life people are experiencing?
Why did we dehumanize the ability to feel attraction and expression?
#Been wanting to say this for a long ass time. when is this going to end. why does everyone hate lesboans freedom to express andlove#lesbian#wlw#misogyny#transphobia#biphopia#panphobia#aphobia#not warriors#mspec lesbian
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This lesbian visibility week, I'd like to take a step back and bring to light one of the issues the lesbian community has. Specifically, those with gender binaries.
And yes, I do mean multiple. We all know and hate the man/woman binary, but in its wake many different gender binaries have risen out of the queer community.
The gender binary I'd like to talk about is nonman/man.
(I'd like to preface this by saying if you like this definition for yourself, that's fine! I'm talking about a certain kind of lesbian that pushes this definition onto everyone around them.)
I was there on TikTok when this definition rose to popularity, and even then I was uncomfortable with it. This obsession with men, or lack-there-of, went a bit too far when they tried to make it the central definition of lesbianism.
However, as I'd soon learn, the lesbian community is only as obsessed with men as they are because TERFs infiltrated us back in the 80s/90s. Cishet TERFs came in, saying that lesbianism was the only moral orientation for a woman to have, and worked to exclude anyone they deemed too "manly" out of lesbianism. This included all transgender and non-binary people, people of color (because they were "fighting for men's rights"), bisexuals, and butches. This was known as lesbian seperatism.
The lesbian community is still healing from lesbian seperatism, and there's still people who participate in what I call "modern lesbian seperatism". Excluding butch lesbians who feel a connection to manhood (lesboys/butchboys), excluding lesbians whose orientation is as multiple and complex as their gender (bisexual lesbians), it can be a dangerous thing just trying to live online as a gender-complex lesbian.
So, as a request this week of lesbian visibility, I'd appreciate it if you'd consider multigender people more in your lesbianism. There are women who are men who are women. There are butches who are men. There are lesbians who're bisexual, and yes that's often an expression of gender-complexity. Take the time to talk to us, hear what we have to say; you'll probably learn more about your history. :)
#butchy babbles#lesbian#butch lesbian#butch#butch boy#masc lesbian#trans butch lesbian#butch gender#trans masc#trans masc butch#transmasc butch#lesboy#bisexual lesbian#bi lesbian#lesbian visibility week#blossomed to 100
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Welcome to my kin care blog!
name(s): Elliott, Eli, K, Kai (for me; the host)
pronouns: they/them, it/its, he/him, xe/xem, meow/meow, bark/bark
This is a side blog for @elliott-the-creature !
More about me here!
spam is ok, but not encouraged :/
here are the requirements for requesting something from me!
↑ pls view this before requesting ↑
anything I make is EXCLUSIVELY for the person/people who requested it (unless stated otherwise). please do not use anything that you didn’t request
requests are open from 2:00pm to 9:00pm on weekdays, and 10:00am to 10:00pm on weekends (pacific standard time). I may be late closing/opening them though, sorry!
here is what I use to make my stuff!
❗️DO NOT INTERACT/FOLLOW❗️
Basic dni
Anti contradictory queer labels (like mspec gay/lesbian, gaybian, lesboy, turigirl, nonbinary boy/girl, etc.)
Nationalist
Pro-cop
Pro-military/warmonger
Anti cringe
Anti kin (includes those against physical alterhumans, otherlinks, fictionkins, etc.)
Anti age-regre/pet-regre
P0rn/nsfw account
14 years or under (I’m almost an adult and feel weird interacting with people significantly younger than me)
Right-winger
Anti endo/tulpas (basically any sysmeds or anti nontraumagenic)(endo neutral are ehh)
Anti objectum/POSIC+
Political and/or war related blogs. And yes, this includes blogs related to world conflicts like russia/ukraine and israel/palestine. I do not enjoy seeing war and genocide, and I obviously want it to stop and for people to stop needlessly killing and dying, but it can be distressing or frustrating to see, so don’t interact if that’s the main thing you post. this also includes asks related to donations for war efforts and support like that.
Anti self diagnosis (fakeclaimers will NOT be tolerated though)
Accounts with no content (idk if you’re a bot or side account for potential spam)
I only have content under the cut for things like violence, gross stuff, blood/gore, bright colours/eyestrain, and weapons/weapon-like objects. I tag for most things that would be fears/phobias for other people, but I won’t put them under a cut. I do NOT put tags for things like food, swearing, all caps, and other minor stuff like that.
massive (and constantly growing) hoard of userboxes (all made by me). DO NOT USE THESE FOR YOURSELF ⬇️
I hope you enjoy my content! 🩷
#alterhuman#nonhuman#therian#otherkin#new account#side account#kin care#kin stuff#kin request#open requests
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my favorite things i see in dnis (/s)
"basic dni criteria" that doesn't exist. what is the basic dni criteria.
"i don't like you" girl then you have to block me im not gonna guess
"you like irredeemable media" what constitutes irredeemable media. bonus if they do give examples and one or more is a kids' show.
pornbots (who can absolutely read your post. totally /s)
"chronically online" i fear you can't interact with yourself anymore
"anti-harassment dni" please just say proshipper because this looks like you saying you are pro-harassment
"freaks dni" WHAT CONSTITUTES A FREAK. similar for creep, weirdo and other such terms
"people who don't put this very personal information in their bio" can range from race to name to pronouns to mental illnesses to triggers to
"under 13 and over 15" girl
"cringe" WHAT CONSTITUTES CRINGE
"dni if you post about my triggers which i am going to list and describe in detail" for your own safety PLEASE don't
violent threats to anyone who fits your dni, bonus points if you're telling "freaks" to go kys. WHO IS FREAKS. WHO ARE YOU SUICIDE BAITING.
specific ass terms that no one who isn't into that discourse can know and that aren't explained, even vaguely. yes google exists. however i am bothering to read your fuckass dni for your sake so be nice to me.
terrible custom font that makes it impossible to read the dni, bonus if the entire bio or pinned post is normal EXCEPT the dni. do you want me to read it or no.
on that note: carrds that lag, "read my dni!" (link to dni isn't functional), dni is in an undescribed image, censored words that makes things unreadable/inaccessible to ppl with screenreaders
very cute and aesthetic pinned/carrd which contains words such as "kill yourself if you're like this" and other such threats
"exclusionists dni" followed by "bi lesbians/lesboys/he/him lesbians/think cishet aro/aces are lgbt+"
dnis that are extremely long and include every single one of your political opinions. I do not need to know this. additionally, dnis that instead of being lists are long ass paragraphs.
threats of violence in case the dni is ignored (i don't know how to tell you that but some people just Reblog Posts without checking the person's blog. also, don't threaten people)
"men dni" "masc dni" "fem-aligned dni" just say you hate multigender people. alternatively just say you drink the terf kool-aid
#dni#mumblings//#omfg do i have to tag this as dis course.#bye no im not#dni list#dni lists#do not interact
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i think the main reason we dont see genderfuck boydyke lesboys that are tma is yes, for lack of support, but more largely because if you give people an inch of allowing yourself to be called male, they’ll take a mile. you just can’t identify that way if you’re tma. tme folks have a lot of privilege when it comes to fucking around with their gender both on and offline. online, terfs will ALWAYS come after the most binary seeming trans woman before they come after the lesboy nonbinary whatever-the-fuck, and offline, like. well murder is a lot more common! even if you try to appear binary! we just cannot afford that. the amount of shit ive gotten even from other tgirls about my whole femboy thing is insane. ive tried to use she/he but guess what people always use (hint, its not she). tme folks just are seen as people & thus are fine to do whatever they want . tma folks not so much
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Intro:
He/they/Xe
/I'll use any neo pronouns you do.
Pan + ace, you could say, pancake! Hahahaha- *🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅* ok ok I'll go, sorry 😔 (y'know what leaving the joke in but all I am right now is not pansexual)
Boygirl, Nonbinary. lesboy. Alterhuman user.
Wolfkin, Foxkin, Angelkin (mixed with some animalistic traits.) Mostly a black Dogkin. Bernese Mountain dog. Border Collie. Fictionkin (Dipper pines) Werewolf kin. Mythical creature kin, and yes that's what it is. Just being a mythical creature in general. (Maybe something with water) Zombie-catkin. Zombiekin, werebat (werewolf + vampire)
Requests for flags (Ship type/dynamic flags, xenogenders, Therian/otherkin flags, mixed flags with gender and sexuality. Liom term etc): OPEN
Dni:
Please don't interact if you like HATE lesboys. Of course and xenogenders-- uhhh you get it. And I can't believe I have to even write a stupid dni, but I'm fuckin done with proshippers following me, leave me the hell alone. Transid.
(I don't wanna see those stupid ass "oh antis just say that we should kill ourselves and they say we should die!" Yeah some will but I'm just fuckin uncomfortable at this point, I'm not telling people to kys, just fuck off)
My other blogs are
@odd-enby-guy
@contradictory-label-culture-is
@weirdo-helps-with-labels
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I'll post art, headcanons, flags and obviously just opinions or regular posts about anything. Otherkin stuff.
#Fictionkin#dipperpineskin#dipper pines#otherkin#therian#alterhuman#duckin?#nonhuman#intro#pansexual#pan ace#pansexual asexual#Panromantic#mythical creature#mythical creature kin#mythical creaturekin#Dogkin#other hearted#otherhearted#pinned intro#blog intro#black dogkin#caninekin#angelkin#hellenic paganism#wolfkin#werewolfkin#angelcatkin#anti proship#anti transid
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🩷Welcome to my blog!🩷
Names: Elliott, Eli, K, Kai (for me; the host)
Pronouns: they/them, he/him, it/its, xe/xem, meow/meow, bark/bark
Identities: Queer (specifics are on my pronoun page), Alterhuman (specifics are on my kintype list), Neurodivergent, plural, artist, indeterministic (aka follower of MWI), agnostic, anti-war, anti-authoritarian, etc.
Age: Minor (all ages (over 14) are fine to interact with, just don’t be weird)
Things I post here: my alterhuman experiences, my neurodivergent experiences, my plurality, Wings of Fire stuff, my art, and stuff related to my life.
Tone tags are not required but definitely appreciated!
Signoffs:
Me (the host): 🐱🩷
Maple: 🍁☮️
Princess: 🐶🎀
Ty: 📺📚
Fin: 🐾🧣
Red: 🐦🔥🏔️
Flax: 🪲🌿
Something: 🌚🌨️
Collective Signoff: 🎧🌈
🩷 more about me (aka my pronoun page) 🩷
🗂️ about our plurality 🗂️
🖍️ my side account for kin requests 🖍️
❗️DO NOT INTERACT/FOLLOW❗️
Basic dni
Anti contradictory queer labels (like mspec gay/lesbian, gaybian, lesboy, turigirl, nonbinary boy/girl, etc.)
Nationalist
Pro-cop
Pro-military/warmonger
Anti cringe
Anti kin (includes those against physical alterhumans, otherlinks, fictionkins, and any and all types of alterhumans)
Anti age/pet regressors (or people who sexualize age/pet regression)
P0rn/nsfw account (18+ in general is ehh unless you post explicit content)
14 years or under (I’m almost an adult and feel weird interacting with people significantly younger than me)
Right winger
Anti endo/tulpas/willogenic (basically any sysmeds or anti nontraumagenic)(endo neutral are ehh)
Anti objectum/POSIC
Political and/or war related blogs. And yes, this includes blogs related to world conflicts like russia/ukraine and israel/palestine. I do not enjoy seeing war and genocide, and I obviously want it to stop and for people to stop needlessly killing and dying, but it can be distressing or frustrating to see, so don’t interact if that’s the main thing you post. this also includes asks related to donations for war efforts and support like that.
Anti self diagnosis (I’m fully supportive of self diagnoser as a former one myself, but I don’t support fake claimers or people who say they have a disorder/condition as a joke or insult)
Accounts with no content (idk if you’re a bot or side account for potential spam)
Bug haters (I get it if y’all have a phobia or something, I’d just prefer if y’all didn’t blatantly say you hate bugs and want them to die)
I block freely and without discrimination, but I only report if it’s for a good reason. If you get blocked, it’s probably because your content upsets me. It is what it is.
massive (and constantly growing) hoard of userboxes (all made by me). DO NOT USE THESE FOR YOURSELF ⬇️
I hope you enjoy our content! 🩷
#intro post#about myself#actually autistic#autistic therian#nonhuman#first post#about me#welcome to my blog#therian blog#queer blog#neurodivergent blog#agere safe space#queer safe space#neurodivergent safe space#alterhuman safe space#petre safe space#plural safe space#pro endo#endo safe
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I'm not exactly coming back to actively posting yet, but there was an idea I had in mind that I thought would be helpful to the community and was wondering how y'all felt about it. I thought about making a survey for those who identify with the term "lesboy," just to collect data and also have beneficial information for people learning about it. so I was asking if people would be interested in filling it out? and ALSO input on what kind of questions you would like to see on it
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basic info about me cuz i figured it would make sense to have a post like this
firstly, if you're here to softblock me/remove me as a follower please just outright block me. i will get confused and refollow you if you don't. i do not intend to harass you i just genuinely cannot trust my own memory.
my name is caribert (pronounced car-ee-bear), you can also call me cari for short. my pronouns are he/him only. they/them is misgendering. i'm 18 years old.
anyone regardless of age is free to follow my blog, but i ask that only people from 15 to 21 years old dm me. mutuals in this age range feel free to dm for my discord!
i'm plural, but i do not disclose my origin publicly.
my gender is best described with the labels ftm, transsexual, transman, multigender, maverique, tboy/tguy, genderqueer, and genderfluid. i am also a crossdresser. my orientation is best described as aroallo queer.
my interests include minecraft speedrunning, wuthering waves, genshin impact, minecraft in general, roller skating, writing, drawing, stardew valley, gardening, politics, activism, and reading. talk to me about any of these!
info on my stances is under the cut!
my "syscourse stance" is that i am against misinformation and for the right to self-define and determine one's own lived experiences. i am against harassment no matter who it is or what they are claiming. if you promote, post, or share misinformation, if you harass others, or if you fakeclaim publicly you are not welcome on my blog and i reserve the right to block you.
i believe that plurality can have causes other than childhood trauma. endogenic plurals are safe on my blog. those who participate in harassment or fakeclaiming towards endogenic plurals are not safe or welcome on my blog. endogenic plurals who harass or fakeclaim traumagenic plurals (yes, even the exclusionary traumagenic plurals) are equally unwelcome on my blog.
alongside my belief in one's right to self-define and determine their own lived experiences, i believe that labels are simply shorthand used to roughly approximate the vast, complex, and beautiful assortment of experiences one could have with their gender and orientation. i welcome all queer experiences with open arms including queer experiences that seem strange or that are best described using labels that seem to conflict. what does this mean? this means mspec lesbians/gays and lesboys/turigirls are welcome on my blog, as well as other folks who use diverse or "contradictory" labels. those who participate in harassment of queer individuals on the basis of not understanding their labels are unwelcome and never will be welcome.
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